Saturday, 28 September 2019

XXXII : Three Things on Trope Talk Amnesia, Including one Hypno-Related


Trope Talk: Amnesia
Overly Sarcastic Productions | 20.IX.2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK2lfUg-fGE


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I went over your examples as given in description:

"EXAMPLES USED (in rough order of first appearance): Transformers Prime (Orion Pax p.1), Death Note, Blindspot, Doctor Who (Utopia), Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Captain Marvel, Batman: The Animated Series (Forgotten), The Iron Giant, Frozen, She-Ra (Remember), Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Young Justice (Bereft), Wall-E, Gravity Falls (finale), Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Wreck-It Ralph, Captain America: The Winter Soldier"

How about this one?

https://www.asterix.com/en/the-collection/albums/asterix-and-the-big-fight/

I think the amnesia was well studied not just limited to plot needs and I think the plot twist was in Goscinny very much not just annoying.

Obviously, the way amnesia ended there may have been wrong ....

Wait ... I think the Druid got out of amnesia before that second menhir.

He accidentally got to a potion removing amnesia, so that part isn't correct, since there are no such drugs, but for one, his potions are fantastic in effect anyway, so one more unrealistic potion doesn't matter too much, and for another, it was the sixties and in the optimism back then, one thought amnesia could one day be actively cured, no doubt.

However, it is at least neither clean nor leaving the affected "sexy"

AND it was made pretty clear that Obelix' idea of a second head trauma was not a good idea.

Never mind that a real menhir thrown with that kind of force would have killed a real person.

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7:44 I am actually missing one type of amnesia treated here : hypnotic amnesia.

Hypnosis could neatly remove one single chunk of a memory as long as the post-hypnotic effects last, if about memories before hypnosis, or for that matter, prevent forming of a memory from some events during the hypnosis.

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11:08 You are saying, amnesia has no rules, really no way to know what to expect, while, for instance superpowers do very much have rules?

Interesting. Reminds me of an Atheist meme about one reason to reject God (either overall or when doing science):

With God - they'd say - anything could happen, there are no rules at all. I e, they think the Christian God being real would be like living in a world where amnesia has the fictional ramifications.

While a Christian thinks, though God is definitely not a superhero (that's more the style of Pagan gods who are mythically based on mainly angels, demons and nephelim / divinised heros), Godhood is parallel to superpowers in so far as it involves there being a code. God being very powerful, indeed all powerful, but there are some things He won't do, like Superman will not crash into Twin Towers, like Batman won't go on stage dancing lambada and so on ...